+- Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org)
+-- Forum: Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Forum: Motorcycles (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=10)
+--- Thread: Stoner... is he back to his old ways? (spoiler??) (/showthread.php?tid=7604)
Stoner... is he back to his old ways? (spoiler??) - Kaan - 09-02-2008
Is it just me or Casey making last year look like a fluke? Two races in a row he puts it down... i guess the bike cant make a rider! this week Rossi was well behind him and i have a hard time thinking a pro rider will get rattled when he sees the pit board say rossi is making up .5-.8 sec a lap.
Is his "on/off switch" style of riding not matching the bike this year? Or is he just a choke artist?
- Apoc - 09-02-2008
The bike seems to be a lot more twitchy in recent events. Maybe that's him trying to out-ride it to pace Rossi, maybe it's the injury or maybe just isn't the real deal. I'm going to go with a little from Column A and a little from Column B.
Re: Stoner... is he back to his old ways? (spoiler??) - .RJ - 09-02-2008
Kaan Wrote:i have a hard time thinking a pro rider will get rattled when he sees the pit board say rossi is making up .5-.8 sec a lap
Was Rossi pulling in any time on him during the race?
I think part of his problem is that he has two speeds - on and off - although it certainly worked for Doohan, it didnt work for Schwantz.
- Kaan - 09-02-2008
the comment was made just before the wreck ( i was in the pisser) that rossi had made up .5 seconds and then .8 seconds in the last two laps. But why is he freaking out? it was 22 laps to go or so... he was still up 15 seconds...
why didnt this happen last year? is there some new rules on traction control? he didnt go down once last year... but i think he's been down 3 times at least this year.
edit: i just looked it up... they either miss spoke or i miss heard... rossi lost .5 and .8 seconds the two laps before the wreck! wtf is he doing pushing that hard with a 15 second lead?
- JohnC - 09-02-2008
Kaan Wrote:wtf is he doing pushing that hard with a 15 second lead?
Which race were you watching? Stoner never had more than about a 3 second lead...
I'm in agreement with RJ - Stoner is either on or off, and this year he's overriding the bike.
- .RJ - 09-02-2008
JohnC Wrote:Which race were you watching? Stoner never had more than about a 3 second lead...
Dont let facts get in the way of things :lol:
Kaan was probably drunk
- Kaan - 09-02-2008
nah i was half asleep. after the crash i took a nap until the end of the race and then watched the interviews.
- stevegula - 09-03-2008
Stoner stated that he thinks this last crash is due to the tires. He was advised to scrub them in on the warm up lap (not what he usually does) and he was completely uncomfortable with the result (they wouldn't stick). When he tried to push to pace he set in free practice the tires were too jacked and wouldn't hold (his fastest lap in FP3 was 1'34.3xx and Rossi's during the race was 1'34.9xx).
I don't think last year was a fluke for Stoner. I just think last year went so damn perfect for him that anything less this year looks bad on him. Plus this year Rossi isn't riding around on shit tires so he's actually able to be competitive and Stoner simply can't run away like he used to.
Sucks, but it's racing.
*edit* and these last three races are the only time in his 3 years in GP he's shown problems under pressure. I don't think it makes him flaky under pressure, I think it's a testament to just how far Rossi can push another rider and lately he's actually been able to get under Stoner's skin (hasn't always been the case between him and Stoner).
- Sijray21 - 09-03-2008
steriods