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- Mike - 06-01-2005
Yelloa3GTI Wrote:h22 in a 92 to 95.. isnt that motos kinda heavy for that chassis.. especially for a track car.. maybe a drag car yea..
i think it is only an extra 40ish pound from a b-series motor. not exactly a vehicle dynamic ruining number.
Yelloa3GTI Wrote:to booost a car correctly means having TURBO MONEY.. and not many college kids have TURBO MONEY.. just my opinion
i have TURBO MONEY, but i'd like to spend it other places than useless power adders.
- .RJ - 06-01-2005
Just this once, I agree with mikey rules.
- WRXtranceformed - 06-01-2005
Speaking of hp / torque, I can't wait for my Stage 4 setup to be complete =p Should be happening within the next 2-3 months
My only big decision is which turbo to go with. Either way, it should put me around 300 awhp. I'm hitting up an awd dyno in two weekends, so I'll be able to post comparisons to my current setup eventually.
- BLAIR - 06-01-2005
Mike Wrote:Yelloa3GTI Wrote:h22 in a 92 to 95.. isnt that motos kinda heavy for that chassis.. especially for a track car.. maybe a drag car yea..
i think it is only an extra 40ish pound from a b-series motor. not exactly a vehicle dynamic ruining number.
Yelloa3GTI Wrote:to booost a car correctly means having TURBO MONEY.. and not many college kids have TURBO MONEY.. just my opinion
i have TURBO MONEY, but i'd like to spend it other places than useless power adders.
i wasnt saying you didnt have turbo money.. maybe i read shit wrong but i thought keith was talking about turboing a honda... my bad.. maybe everyone has turbo money.. i wish i did
- damnit458 - 06-01-2005
Yelloa3GTI Wrote:h22 in a 92 to 95.. isnt that motos kinda heavy for that chassis.. especially for a track car.. maybe a drag car yea..
humm i dont know much about honda but id say kieth with any honda with a swap youll be more than happy.. just get that done first..
to booost a car correctly means having TURBO MONEY.. and not many college kids have TURBO MONEY.. just my opinion
Go on honda-tech and read the thread where somebody actually weighed the difference between a b-series and an h-series. The difference is only something like 30 pounds....yet everybody always blows it out of proportion.
In regards to boost, I dont want to boost my car. I know myself. I know that I would blow the fuck out of the engine with boost, just like I know I wouldnt last the ride home from the dealership if I bought a bike. Hence the reason I want the H22a. 190 stock hp, decent torque, less money, not nearly as much needed done to it to hit 200 whp as with a B18c (sorry mike).
- BLAIR - 06-01-2005
damnit458 Wrote:Yelloa3GTI Wrote:h22 in a 92 to 95.. isnt that motos kinda heavy for that chassis.. especially for a track car.. maybe a drag car yea..
humm i dont know much about honda but id say kieth with any honda with a swap youll be more than happy.. just get that done first..
to booost a car correctly means having TURBO MONEY.. and not many college kids have TURBO MONEY.. just my opinion
Go on honda-tech and read the thread where somebody actually weighed the difference between a b-series and an h-series. The difference is only something like 30 pounds....yet everybody always blows it out of proportion.
In regards to boost, I dont want to boost my car. I know myself. I know that I would blow the fuck out of the engine with boost, just like I know I wouldnt last the ride home from the dealership if I bought a bike. Hence the reason I want the H22a. 190 stock hp, decent torque, less money, not nearly as much needed done to it to hit 200 whp as with a B18c (sorry mike).
cool deal.. sounds like a good plan..wasnt at all trying to make you look stupid or prove something cause i truely dont know.. just seems that an h22 would be more common of a swap if it were that easy to make the good power. but more power to you.. jump on it man
sounds like youve done you research ... good deal
- damnit458 - 06-01-2005
Haha its one thing to talk and another to act...if I had done as much research AND saving as I had hoped id have had this god damn hatch/swap two years ago.
- ScottyB - 06-01-2005
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Either way, it should put me around 300 awhp.
you best look into some strengthened gear sets son 8) standard WRX's like to eat their trannies at about that level of power. maybe you are aware....i just don't want to see you on the side of the road with WRX guts trailing your car!
- Maengelito - 06-01-2005
damnit, someone swap an LS1 into something and then lock this thread
- ScottyB - 06-01-2005
Maengelito Wrote:damnit, someone swap an LS1 into something and then lock this thread
hey Rex....
- Dave - 06-01-2005
so, we've learned:
Keith wants an H22, no matter what and appears to have done the research to make himself a success.
Mkey is afriaid of teh b00st.
RJ is a ricer and can blabber endless Honda parts while still sounding intelligent..
Blair still doesn't know his Hondas.
Every Honda part is interchangeable between every engine, making for infinite variables in engine building.
Wheeeeeeeeeeee, just another MM thread
Actually, if I were going to run a car regularly on track, I would build it to be the most powerful with the least amount of stress endured, while keeping it so that parts are easy to acquire (goodbye JDM swaps) and still being reliable. Best that I can tell, Mike is doing a good job of fitting this bill.
- WRXtranceformed - 06-01-2005
ScottyB Wrote:WRXtranceformed Wrote:Either way, it should put me around 300 awhp.
you best look into some strengthened gear sets son 8) standard WRX's like to eat their trannies at about that level of power. maybe you are aware....i just don't want to see you on the side of the road with WRX guts trailing your car!
Yah, USDM STI gearset, STI Type RA, or a custom built gearset after the stock one breaks 8) New clutch probably before then.
- ViPER1313 - 06-01-2005
Quit changing all thread titles to see what they have been hijacked to - we all know that threads go off topic here. Just adds to the page's charm
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- Kaan - 06-01-2005
"Mike Wrote:Motor + cams + i/h/e + tuning = not too much.
dont forget who is doing your tuning...
btw mike... if you were to boost lightly... you'd be fine... and you are right about the LSvtec combo... this is why i strayed away from the CRvtec build.
like that guy on HT that has the b00sted R and is running hot... there is a reason... and the reason is he wont let go of power to keep it cool ;-)
- Rex4life - 06-01-2005
13B REW
don't be a pussy and come to the real dark side
- Myuki - 06-01-2005
ViPER1313 Wrote:Quit changing all thread titles to see what they have been hijacked to - we all know that threads go off topic here. Just adds to the page's charmbut, it lets us keep track of it all :wink:
- CaptainHenreh - 06-01-2005
ScottyB Wrote:Maengelito Wrote:damnit, someone swap an LS1 into something and then lock this thread
hey Rex....
LS1's are too expensive. I dont' need no steenking aluminum. I want a big fat lump of iron underneath the hood of my next car.
But we'll see.
- Andy - 06-02-2005
damnit458 Wrote:Go on honda-tech and read the thread where somebody actually weighed the difference between a b-series and an h-series. The difference is only something like 30 pounds....yet everybody always blows it out of proportion.
In regards to boost, I dont want to boost my car. I know myself. I know that I would blow the fuck out of the engine with boost, just like I know I wouldnt last the ride home from the dealership if I bought a bike. Hence the reason I want the H22a. 190 stock hp, decent torque, less money, not nearly as much needed done to it to hit 200 whp as with a B18c (sorry mike).
don't forget about custom axles, no AC/PS. if you're cool with that and the inconvenience of a tight engine space to wrench the car. Go for it. I have a ass load of spare h22a stuff you can rumage through.
- .RJ - 06-02-2005
damnit458 Wrote:Go on honda-tech and read the thread where somebody actually weighed the difference between a b-series and an h-series. The difference is only something like 30 pounds....yet everybody always blows it out of proportion.
Yeah but there is problems with the shift linkage (cable) and the axles.... just not ideal, but would be fun.
- damnit458 - 06-02-2005
As stated above, its harder to make it work. But I am determined 8) :wink:
I will probably take you up on that load of H22a stuff about 2-3 months from now
My original point was, even if I end up spending another 1.5-2k on the car, im still at the same point moneywise mike is, and I end up with the better motor 8) . AC I dont mind losing, and I doubt the eg I buy will even have PS. Tight work space? pshhh...got mmer's here to help out w/that